20 years in prison for manga


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damn hes going to be someones prison bitch in less than a year. poor guy
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so just don't take your loli art across boarders, as that somehow was a deciding issue XD
 
But don't you think the laws against it were pretty absurd? I mean i get the proxy thing and all but it still doesn't seem right that he should be jailed because he reads about lolis getting raeped.

If you think about it, people who watch movies where people get murdered should be charged for murder. People who watch animals get hurt should be charged for animal violence etc.

And the argument that he "might" do it is pretty ridiculous as well. I mean, why don't they just start arresting random people who watch action films or play "murder simulators" here and there because they "might" murder someone or go on a rampage?
 
I agree the sentence still seems ridiculous, but not as ridiculous as when I was still hearing "imprisoned for yaoi manga". I can't remember which site it was, but when I reading up on the case the other day it was mentioned that the content involved young girls being sexually abused. And I think that is the difference - so people buying US translated manga probably don't need worry, because publishers won't release those titles under a US company. If you're importing, well, the authorities always have had the right to check your packages. My doujinshi packages always come with a stamp that says "allowed to be open for official inspection".

Also, was it ever said why the package was opened? Random check, or did they suspect something illegal was in it?
 
QUOTE QUOTE http://news.tbs.co.jp/newseye/tbs_newseye4143799.html

May 28, Tokyo
Due to recent protest against "Rapelay" in the Parliament of UK ,
EOCS or Ethics Organization of Computer Software in Tokyo
is going to ban all hardcore hentai games. About 200 software publishers
will give up making and selling such.

Sad news for otakus, nipponjin and gaijin alike.
Someone please post this.
[Also i registered because apparently the forums keep treating me like a bot even though i answered the question correctly.]

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Surprisingly, news found on Yotsuba chan, and on that matter someone please confirm this, someone who can read Jap. It's Yotsuba after all, and for all we know anon might just be trolling.

Found this. Remember all that jazz about rapelay by Equalitynow [the feminazi group]. This is the result. I don't really get why they're trying to protect the rights of fictional characters and the stereotype that "He has <insert porn fetish here> porn in his computer, he must be a molester/predator!!!!" is really starting to get on my nerve. As for Japan, this just proves that they care more about appearances which comes with no surprise at all.
 
QUOTE (khael @ May 28 2009, 09:22 AM) Found this. Remember all that jazz about rapelay by Equalitynow [the feminazi group]. This is the result. I don't really get why they're trying to protect the rights of fictional characters and the stereotype that "He has <insert porn fetish here> porn in his computer, he must be a molester/predator!!!!" is really starting to get on my nerve. As for Japan, this just proves that they care more about appearances which comes with no surprise at all.
Can we stay level-headed, please ?
The ban on rape simulation is not a sad day for otakus, except is you think that playing rape simulatons is a defining part of being an otaku (besides, the game sucks. No pun intended).

And calling EqualityNow a feminazi group is downright insulting.
Look at their website ( http://www.equalitynow.org ) and tell me why they deserve to be called nazi : because they fight against sexual tourism ? Because they call for the release of an Iranian woman punished for adultery ? Because they inform on the situation of women in Pakistan ?
Please ! They may defend a proposition with which you disagree, but they're still decent people, as far as I know.



As for the "trying to protect fictional characters", you're just not understanding.
They don't defend the characters. They defend the group behind the characters.

Take a game where your play a Ku Klu Klan member, and your aim is to lynch as many nig... black people as possible. Fictional black people of course.
That doesn't make you a murderer. But the game is still completely, utterly and despicably racist, and should be banned on this basis.
 
Turns out TBS fabricated the news, but there'll be a decision by the EOCS by June 2. Either way, the EOCS is an independent self-regulating organization and not a government one so if the publishers find that EOCS won't approve of their game they'll just have to find other boards.

And pardon, not sad for every gaijin but yeah sad for a number of otakus.

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Take a game where your play a Ku Klu Klan member, and your aim is to lynch as many nig... black people as possible. Fictional black people of course.
That doesn't make you a murderer. But the game is still completely, utterly and despicably racist, and should be banned on this basis.


Just because i made recipe for the burrito which consists of bacon, cake, and balsamic vinegar doesn't mean i'm actually butchering the burrito itself and common decency. It's not like i'm spreading it around, but i do share it to similar minded individuals like myself.

I've followed these events closely. All i can say is that Equalitynow should start where they're needed most? While they're denying a bunch of weeaboos and otakus their daily fapping material, real child porn is being filmed, real women are being raped etc. You get my drift? What they're doing is just denying a small group an outlet of self-gratification instead of being able to save actual lives, of course, it should be noted that their other works deserve more publicity than this one.

And for the record, i've forsaken my level head quite some time ago. I've found that reason only works with a smaller number of people nowadays and what creates more quick ande decisive responses are force and action.

Also, yeah the game sucks but it'll bring down with it a lot of other good games.
 
QUOTE Just because i made recipe for the burrito which consists of bacon, cake, and balsamic vinegar doesn't mean i'm actually butchering the burrito itself and common decency. It's not like i'm spreading it around, but i do share it to similar minded individuals like myself.

If you do that, people against experimentation with burritos may protest ( I just saw the last Sherlock Holmes movie trailer and people are screaming about the slaughter of the novels ! ^^).

Just as people against the rape of women protest here. It's just that many many more people are against rape, and think that rape is a much much serious crime (well, except in the anime community, maybe).

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I've followed these events closely. All i can say is that Equalitynow should start where they're needed most? While they're denying a bunch of weeaboos and otakus their daily fapping material, real child porn is being filmed, real women are being raped etc. You get my drift? What they're doing is just denying a small group an outlet of self-gratification instead of being able to save actual lives, of course, it should be noted that their other works deserve more publicity than this one.

As far as I can tell, it's only a small part of their fight.
And if the genuinely think that rapelay has a nefarious influence on the women condition, it's legitimate to fight for it.

Otherwise, your argument is "It's ok to change something only if it's the worst thing in the world".
Take the fight for the end of the segregation in the 50's in the USA. Worst things were happening in the world at that time. Would you have say "People are dying in Starvationland, you should focus about that instead of wanting to sit where you want in the bus" ?

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And for the record, i've forsaken my level head quite some time ago. I've found that reason only works with a smaller number of people nowadays and what creates more quick ande decisive responses are force and action.

We are some of those people of smaller number, here.
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QUOTE (khael @ May 30 2009, 11:59 AM)While they're denying a bunch of weeaboos and otakus their daily fapping material, real child porn is being filmed, real women are being raped etc. You get my drift? What they're doing is just denying a small group an outlet of self-gratification instead of being able to save actual lives, of course, it should be noted that their other works deserve more publicity than this one.
Or, they're waging an intellectual-oriented war to change people's attitudes toward female status in society. Maybe it seems like a small thing, but you have to change people's attitudes before you can change their actions. That's not to say everyone out there playing hentai games has a negative view of women - but the games are accessible to other people, and can be interpreted as reinforcing a negative view of women. More broadly, this is probably WHY many people want to stop fictional characters from being depicting in such scenes. It's not that the people viewing the material are causing crimes, but they're influenced to make intellectual associations that negatively impact other people in the real world.

The internet allows a lot of people under the age of 18 to access 18+ content: people who are more easily influenced because their minds are still developing. They might know enough to realize that rape is wrong, but maybe the content in general teaches them that women are inferior and don't deserve full respect (to make an example). It's highly probable that these groups are fighting indirect impacts, rather than just "people who see fictional characters being raped become rapists".
 
QUOTE If you do that, people against experimentation with burritos may protest ( I just saw the last Sherlock Holmes movie trailer and people are screaming about the slaughter of the novels ! ^^).

Exactly why i won't let them know. Get my drift?
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QUOTE Just as people against the rape of women protest here. It's just that many many more people are against rape, and think that rape is a much much serious crime (well, except in the anime community, maybe).

As far as i've seen, rape of real women are frowned upon.


QUOTE Otherwise, your argument is "It's ok to change something only if it's the worst thing in the world".
Take the fight for the end of the segregation in the 50's in the USA. Worst things were happening in the world at that time. Would you have say "People are dying in Starvationland, you should focus about that instead of wanting to sit where you want in the bus" ?

Real women and children getting raped vs. basement-dwellers masturbating to rapelay. I'd say the children and women have to be dealt with first.


QUOTE The internet allows a lot of people under the age of 18 to access 18+ content: people who are more easily influenced because their minds are still developing. They might know enough to realize that rape is wrong, but maybe the content in general teaches them that women are inferior and don't deserve full respect (to make an example). It's highly probable that these groups are fighting indirect impacts, rather than just "people who see fictional characters being raped become rapists".

This is where "parenting" usually comes into play.


QUOTE It's not that the people viewing the material are causing crimes, but they're influenced to make intellectual associations that negatively impact other people in the real world.

I don't get how choosing 2d women over real women has any negative effect. If any i guess they could celebrate that the 2d vs 3d population will eventually dwindle.

And on that note, there are a lot of stereotypes being shown on the TV and in the movies. Even in books such as the Da Vinci Code, the Communist Manifesto, etc. Even websites supporting terrorist groups. Not all the people who view the material actually support its contents yet they can still view it and are able to enjoy it. It's called maturity.

I know a number of Christians [Catholics and Protestants alike] who've read the Dan Brown movies and enjoyed it, but they don't believe what's in it is true etc. Why? It's fiction. And right now they're still religious people, how nice.


QUOTE We are some of those people of smaller number, here.

And you are one of the most. One year in the outside world trying to socialize and what not, this stuff ain't for me. It's back to work-basement-work lifestyle.
 
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Real women and children getting raped vs. basement-dwellers masturbating to rapelay. I'd say the children and women have to be dealt with first.


Real women and children being raped vs. being able to play hentai games...
According to you, you should stop whining about the ban, at least as long there's worst things happening in the world.


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And on that note, there are a lot of stereotypes being shown on the TV and in the movies. Even in books such as the Da Vinci Code, the Communist Manifesto, etc. Even websites supporting terrorist groups. Not all the people who view the material actually support its contents yet they can still view it and are able to enjoy it. It's called maturity.

I know a number of Christians [Catholics and Protestants alike] who've read the Dan Brown movies and enjoyed it, but they don't believe what's in it is true etc. Why? It's fiction. And right now they're still religious people, how nice.

Read again the story of The protocols of the elders of Zion.
Propaganda is used because it works.

I'm not saying that in this specific example, hentai games increase the perception of women as sexual object by some players (because to be honest, I don't know and my skills in psychology are abysmal), but it's not a completely stupid idea.

PS : They really enjoyed the Da Vinci Code ?
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QUOTE PS : They really enjoyed the Da Vinci Code ?

They said, it was good, it was "creative" and "witty".
Also, my mistake, it should've been "read the Dan Brown novels" not movies.


QUOTE Real women and children being raped vs. being able to play hentai games... According to you, you should stop whining about the ban, at least as long there's worst things happening in the world.

No, they should stop pursuing the ban because there's no sufficient evidence that people who play eroge's think poorly of women or actually act out their fantasies IRL. It's an outlet for gratification of desires which are otherwise impossible to attain in the real world. If you ask me, if you take that away i think it may have a counter-intuitive effect.


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I'm not saying that in this specific example, hentai games increase the perception of women as sexual object by some players (because to be honest, I don't know and my skills in psychology are abysmal), but it's not a completely stupid idea.

And in that same sense, it's not completely right either. There's a reason why things like porn should be segregated properly so that it may not fall into the wrong hands and affect highly impressionable minds.


QUOTE Propaganda is used because it works.

Not all the time, and not to everyone. If it did, i'd say the world should be in a much more dire situation.
 
QUOTE (mamori @ Dec 13 2008, 02:15 AM) In the above editorial, we are presented with an interesting topic. a man who had ordered some manga and had it mailed to him had his package inspected, where it was found to contain "obscene" material. quotes from one of the lawyers noted that the content in question was Yaoi, and that the obscene content specifically was that it featured an "apparently" underage character, based on a lack of pubic hair.

20 years for some -possibly underage- yaoi?

Dear jesus why don't we just ban the internet?
 
Well dragon ball 1-4 were taken away from market since they contained child porn (in finland ... elsewhere it was called comedy) -.- cost me frigin 200€ to buy them from net but it was worth it
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Now I am a huge criminal that might jump on little girls, blast police car with kamehameha and fly away with kinto-un....I am so leetness thanks to DB.
 
QUOTE (Yggy @ Jun 06 2009, 09:40 AM)
So far, I have read it was yaoi what he bought, but who knows? That one site says it was loli manga.
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/05/26/a...faces-15-years/
Well, the official info has been that it's yaoi manga with charas that "look underage". When the description is vague as that, it doesn't really matter whether it was actually loli/shota or not.

@ Majeh No kidding, really? That's hilarious, in a totally fubar kind of way. I wonder now if it's safe to take the DB DVD I bought in China back to US
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Yeah after they pulled it off markets they censored later episodes(and reprinted 1-4) so that half of the panels show just some sound effects so there are few pages like paff paff paff paff...well my imagination fixes it so nvm that but its hilarious how they claim DB as child porn in here
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But still I have to say they ruined my sexual growth badly when they show first animation on our nation channel(that doesnt have add's but more like culture, sports, news...). They addvertised its some detective anime and good for all ages. Well suprise suprise it was some yaoi where 2 detective cops were in passionate relationship each other...dont remember name but were from 91-99(for some reason I dont like yaoi series.. -.- )

"Yamete! Oshiri ga itai!"

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Yup. I also laughed hard at the scenes that depict fully naked Goku taking a pee. I think the "concerned parents" would have a horrible shock from that.
 
Nekomimi got banned as well. Incoming domino effect, though i don't think everything will disappear. The market needs to grow a spine, and the people opposing hentai should be taught the concepts of weltschmerz, namely the concept that physical reality cannot satisfy the mind's desires. This is why fiction exists, this is why 2d exists.
 
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