QUOTE (franzoir @ Feb 23 2010, 01:44 PM) It is natural but it is taking precedence over emotions. And I believe human being are mainly emotional vessels therefore it is a fallacy for logic to come first.
By this argument, murder, which is primarily an act of emotion (whether it be rage, jealousy, or whatever) should rise above the use of logic - which would normally take precedence and prevent a person from committing such an act? Does religion not PROMOTE the use of logic and reasoning in order to put down such basal actions such as relying on emotion to make decisions? You can't have it both ways, you must chose. Can't argue that our more base emotions and instincts should take precedence, and then base such arguments around thoughts of religion which strictly say that such base emotions and instincts are wrong...so wrong that following them will lead you straight to the depths of hell and eternal damnation...
QUOTE (franzoir @ Feb 23 2010, 01:44 PM)I will never be swayed by a comparison with humans and animals. Some animals eat their spawn and have sex with their mothers. Should i do that too?By using REASON and LOGIC, no, you shouldn't. Reason and logic dictate that both are bad (killing and eating your children prevents the continuation of your bloodline and will bring negative consequences upon you personally. Incest will cause any children to have a higher chance of negative genetic mutations.) If you were to consider only the basal instincts and emotions then yes, perhaps you should. Fortunately the human condition is for us to use logic, reasoning, and foresight to make decisions, weighing the positive and negative consequences and choosing whether an action is worth it or not.
By this argument, murder, which is primarily an act of emotion (whether it be rage, jealousy, or whatever) should rise above the use of logic - which would normally take precedence and prevent a person from committing such an act? Does religion not PROMOTE the use of logic and reasoning in order to put down such basal actions such as relying on emotion to make decisions? You can't have it both ways, you must chose. Can't argue that our more base emotions and instincts should take precedence, and then base such arguments around thoughts of religion which strictly say that such base emotions and instincts are wrong...so wrong that following them will lead you straight to the depths of hell and eternal damnation...
QUOTE (franzoir @ Feb 23 2010, 01:44 PM)I will never be swayed by a comparison with humans and animals. Some animals eat their spawn and have sex with their mothers. Should i do that too?By using REASON and LOGIC, no, you shouldn't. Reason and logic dictate that both are bad (killing and eating your children prevents the continuation of your bloodline and will bring negative consequences upon you personally. Incest will cause any children to have a higher chance of negative genetic mutations.) If you were to consider only the basal instincts and emotions then yes, perhaps you should. Fortunately the human condition is for us to use logic, reasoning, and foresight to make decisions, weighing the positive and negative consequences and choosing whether an action is worth it or not.